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Old 07-17-2010, 09:40 PM
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Default The Seventy Weeks of Daniel are not weeks of years

The Seventy Weeks of Daniel are not weeks of years. They are exactly what they say they are. That is to say they are true weeks of days that are not to be reinterpreted as years and have yet to happen at all. Remember, the Seventy Weeks are Gabriel's interpretation of the Seventy Years of Jeremiah 25:11-12 and 29:10 to Daniel and to reinterpret an interpretation given to us directly by God is to alter His word.

I believe I can easily prove it biblical by showing you something that is right in front of us, but no one seems to see it.

Observe:

Daniel 8 says that there will be 2300 days until the temple is cleansed.

Daniel 9 follows up by saying that Seventy Weeks (490 days, broken into 3 segments of 7 weeks, 62 weeks and 1 week) are appointed until the Anointed receives his anointment. It should be pointed out that the word that is interpreted here as "messiah" in verses 25 & 26 is used 39 times in the Old Testament and in every other place is it interpreted as "Anointed" and not "Messiah", according to my Strong's Concordance (this is important as you will see).

You all know these prophecies.

What you have missed is seeing the relationship in the Book of Revelation that this has.

In Revelation, no time periods are given to the first 4 angels, but starting with the 5th Angel, exact time periods are assigned.

It works out like this:

5th Angel : 5 months (150 days, using the interpretation of a month equaling 30 days each, which is used in the cross reference of the 1260 days being 42 months in a later chapter). Revelation, Chapter 9:5-6)

6th Angel: an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year (396 1/4 days, plus 1 hr, Revelation, Chapter 9:15

7th Angel: 1260 days (cross-referenced as the time, times and part of a time in the 12th Chapter, verses 6 & 14, and as 42 months in the 13th chapter, verse 5 {42 months X 30 days per month, the length of every month in the Hebrew calendar} of the Revelation)

Time the 2 prophets lay dead: 3 1/2 days.

This adds up to exactly 1810 days.

Here's the kicker: If you take the Seventy Weeks of Daniel 9, which is 490 days, and add them to the times listed in Revelation attributed to the 5th, 6th and 7th Angels plus the time the Witnesses lay dead before their resurrection, you get EXACTLY 2300 days.

Also, since the 1260 days (the 42 months of the Beasts rule, which is also the 3 1/2 times as previously shown) are cross referenced 3 times to indicate that they are indeed days and cannot be construed to be years, then the rest of it must be days as well. It should also be noted that even though they used the lunar system to calculate their months (this is why they are all 30 days long) they still calculated their years by the Winter Equinox, making all years 365 and 1/4 days long. I think they used a Jubilee at the end of each year that was not a part of any month to make up the difference so it would all come out right.

This means several important things.

First, the Anointed of Dan 9 is NOT Jesus, but most likely Michael, who Daniel specifically states in Chapter 12 will appear during the Apocalypse to fight Satan. The interpretation of the word "משיח" or "mashiyach" as "Messiah" instead of "Anointed" in Daniel (as this word is interpreted everywhere else in the King James Version, which I use) has given people the false impression that this must be Christ, which it is not. Michael is also prophesied to oppose Satan during this time according to Rev 12. I believe Michael will be born on the earth as a man just as Jesus was. It is my opinion that the Mighty Angel of Rev 10 as well as several other places in Rev that point to this (this is a study all on its own and involves the Book of Zachariah which is equal to Daniel and Revelation but is usually ignored because it does not fit into current teaching of end time events).

Second, I believe that ALL of the Angels of Revelation are going to be real people that appear during the last times as well as the Woman and her child of Rev 11. When looked at this way, it becomes amazingly simple to understand. The prophecies of Revelation are much more literal than any have imagined and what is symbolism is being used to describe things about these literal people that would be hard to explain otherwise.

Third, this explains why no time periods are given to the first 4 angels, since they are part of the Seventy Weeks that happens either before or concurrently with the last 3 Angel's times.

I know that this departs from what you have all been taught, but God showed me this with great power.

I hope that if you cannot accept it, you will at least consider it.
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:16 AM
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Hello Dust,

Here are some verses to consider which show that in fact Yashua (Jesus) was considered the Anointed One. (Messiah)

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Bill




4899 mashiyach {maw-shee'-akh}
Meaning: 1) anointed, anointed one 1a) of the Messiah, Messianic prince 1b) of the king of Israel 1c) of the high priest of Israel 1d) of Cyrus 1e) of the patriarchs as anointed kings

Psalm 2:2 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the YHWH, and against his anointed, saying,…….

Isaiah 61:1 KJV Isaiah 61:1 ¶ The Spirit of the Lord YHWH is upon me; because YHWH hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

Luke 4:17-21 17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.

Acts 10:38 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Hebrews 1:8-9 8 ¶ But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Daniel 9:25-26 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the (Anointed) Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
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Old 07-26-2010, 01:33 AM
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I do not deny that Jesus is an Annointed One, but the verses I showed you in Zech about the 2 staves shows that there are two. The staff of Beauty is Jesus and was broken by God for 30 pieces of silver as was prophecied and reaffermed in the New Testament in Matt 27.

Since I have showed what I believe to be good reason to feel that the events of the 70 weeks have yet to happen, I am simply saying that its the personage representing the second staff that Daniel is referring to in these passages. I would also like to point out that Daniel mentions Michael by name as appearing during the Apocalypse in ch 12, so I think they fit together.
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